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Airman sailor
AN

Airman

Undesignated airman apprentice working in aviation-related divisions while awaiting rating assignment.

Overall

4.3/10
Promotion9.3
Lifestyle4.0
Civilian ROI1.0
Happiness5.0
Manning %3.2
$$$ Pay1.4

Quick Stats

Enlistment BonusNo active bonus
Civilian Sector Transferability$28k–$42k
Promotion Speed
Manning %99%
Initial Contract4 yr

Security Clearance

None

This rate does not require a security clearance.

ASVAB Requirements

No ASVAB data available

Who This Is Best For

Best for undecided individuals who know they want aviation but need hands-on exposure before choosing a specialty. The trade-off is slower advancement until you strike a rate, but you gain broad visibility into multiple career paths before committing. Ideal if you're uncertain but motivated.

+Pros

  • Strong civilian career transition

Cons

    Real Opinions

    +Positive

    I would recommend AN to anyone considering it. The training is solid and the community takes care of its own.

    r/navy|

    The PACT Airman program gave me a chance to see multiple aviation shops before choosing my rate. I got exposure to avionics, power plants, and airframes before deciding. That firsthand experience was invaluable — I picked a rate I actually enjoy instead of guessing from a pamphlet.

    DVIDSHUB|

    Some undesignated airmen find the experience builds resilience and appreciation for whatever rate they eventually strike. The aviation community has a faster strike timeline than deck or engineering — most airmen can pick their rate within 12 months if they stay qualified.

    Military.com|

    Critical & Mixed

    Being undesignated means you do whatever needs doing. You have little control over your day-to-day until you strike a rate.

    Going undes airman means you're basically the flight deck's extra pair of hands. You'll be chocking and chaining aircraft, sweeping the flight deck for FOD, and doing whatever grunt work the aviation department needs. It's physically exhausting and you have no guaranteed career path until you strike.

    Reddit r/newtothenavy|

    The aviation community moves fast and the environment is unforgiving. As an undesignated airman, you're doing the hardest physical labor with the least recognition. If your desired rate doesn't have open quotas when you're eligible to strike, you're stuck waiting while doing FOD walkdowns.

    Indeed|

    Recruiter vs Reality

    What the recruiter says vs. what it's actually like.

    🫡 Recruiter says

    Going undesignated lets you try different jobs before committing to one!

    Being undesignated means you will likely do the jobs nobody else wants until you strike a rate. You have less control over your career path and may wait months to get into A-school.

    🫡 Recruiter says

    Airman is better than Seaman because aviation has better quality of life.

    Aviation commands can have better facilities, but as an undesignated AN you do not enjoy the same benefits as rated aviation sailors. You are still doing manual labor, just in a hangar instead of on deck.

    🫡 Recruiter says

    AN is great because you are already in an aviation squadron.

    Being in a squadron as undesignated means you see what the rated sailors do, but you are doing the grunt work while they do the technical jobs. It can be motivating or demoralizing depending on your perspective.

    🫡 Recruiter says

    AN can strike for any aviation rate.

    Only aviation community rates, and only if there are open billets. The popular rates like AW and AT fill quickly. You may end up striking for a rate that was not your first choice simply because it was available.

    🫡 Recruiter says

    Going Airman lets you work around aircraft.

    AN is assigned to aviation intermediate maintenance or the flight deck doing general labor. You are not maintaining aircraft as an AN. You are sweeping hangars, moving parts, and doing whatever the shop needs.

    🫡 Recruiter says

    As an Airman, you'll work with aircraft and learn about aviation maintenance.

    💀 Reality

    You'll mostly be sweeping hangar bays, moving toolboxes, and holding flashlights for the rated technicians. You're adjacent to aviation, not doing aviation.

    🫡 Recruiter says

    You'll get to try different aviation jobs and pick the one you like best.

    💀 Reality

    Striking for a rate depends on what's available, not what you want. Many PACT Airmen end up striking for whatever has openings, and some can't strike at all before their first enlistment ends.

    Training Pipeline — Total ~8 weeks (2 months)

    8w
    Boot Camp8 weeks
    RTC Great Lakes, IL
    Basic military training for all recruits
    A-School0 weeks
    Various NAS
    0% washout
    On-the-job training at first command
    Fleet Assignment0 weeks
    First duty station
    Report to operational command

    Ship Date Calculator

    Enter your MEPS ship date to see when you'll complete each stage.

    Promotion SpeedEarn higher pay fasterManning 99% (E-5/E-6)

    Cycle (Year)EligibleSelectedPromotion %
    E-4252-Spring(2024)77100130%
    E-4252-Fall(2024)595593%
    E-5252-Spring(2024)423788%
    E-5252-Fall(2024)732534%
    E-6252-Spring(2024)1382417%
    E-6252-Fall(2024)3035117%

    Bonuses — Click here to see your military pay

    Enlistment Bonus

    No active bonus for this rate

    Potential Civilian Post-Navy Outcomes

    Aviation Ground Crew

    Transferability: 3/10

    $28k–$42k

    Lifestyle4/10

    Ship vs. Shore Split

    50% / 50%

    Deployment Frequency

    Moderate

    Physical Demand

    medium — mixed

    Watch Standing

    Assigned to division watch bill (varies by command)

    Watch standing is a 24-hour duty rotation where sailors take turns manning critical positions aboard the ship or at their command. The rotation determines how frequently you stand watch and how much rest time you get between shifts.

    Watch qualifications vary by command and platform. Expect to qualify within 90 days of reporting.